Very basic defining Digital DIY and "ABC"
This conversation follows on from Luca's email (sent: 08 February 2015 19:10 to the extended Steering Board) which invites us 'to start working on ABC cases as "core examples" of what we should take into account in our project'.
I wasn't sure whether to start a new thread, or to add this on to Bruce's attempt to start a list of *examples*. But this conversation is, I think, about even more basic definitions, so I started a new one.
So: I think we can agree that our project centres around what you're calling "ABC" technologies, i.e. (as I think it means) digital technologies that lead to the production of physical stuff, but there is still the question of whether it has to be an internet-connected machine which does the making, or if an internet-connected human can be the one who does the making.
Note also that the internet-connected machines typically require a lot of help from humans anyway, and don't sit in their own houses devising and fabricating their own projects. So I mean it's always blurry, and there are no projects that a machine initiates and completes single-handedly (as it were).
Nevertheless I suppose we can have a 'tighter' and a 'wider' definition, both of which are probably acceptable to all of us, but where the tighter one means you've got a device connected to the internet which manufactures things (? - is that what you'd have in the tighter definition?) and the wider definition is about digital technologies fostering and inspiring making, but where the making can be done by humans, humans with tools, and/or machines.
What do you think?
Incidentally, about this "ABC" phrase ... to be honest I joined in with pretending to recognise this phrase as you were casually using it to refer to these kinds of things ... and it seemed to stand for "Atoms to Bits Conversion" or something [note added 24 hours later: it's "tags/atoms-bits convergence" isn't it, sorry] -- Anyway so just now I Googled "ABC atoms bits" to see what in-use-in-the-world definitions I could look at ... and I don't really see any ...
... or at least the main thing that comes up is this exhibition by John Maeda which links Atoms, Bits and Craft (ABC)
... so personally I like that, but it's not the "ABC" you've been talking about.
Also, I think we described archetypal ABC technologies as 3D printing and Arduino. 3D printing clearly counts but where does Arduino sit in relation to either the theme of turning bits into atoms, or small-scale manufacturing ...? [comment added 24 hours later: ah, since ABC means atoms-bits convergence (rather than 'conversion'), then it's a bit easier to imagine some kind of answer, but I'm still interested to hear an answer from one of you...]
Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, but they might be stupid questions that other people might ask, and it would be nice to have the answers to them!
To summarise, the questions that arise from this message are:
* Do we accept a 'tighter' and a 'wider' definition of Digital DIY, as outlined above?
* What precisely is the 'tighter' one - does it necessarily involve a device connected to the internet which manufactures things, or something else?
* Are we going to use this phrase 'ABC' and if so what exactly does it mean? (Are you drawing on a previous use of it ... and presumably it's not the John Maeda one [though I'd be happy if it was]?)
* In what way is Arduino a typical example of it?